Discussion in 'Land Warfare in the Pacific' started by larso, Oct 12, 2013.
I’m heading out Monday to visit my Granddaughter -my Daughter and her wonderful husband in Las Vegas . I think I’ll see if I can pick up a copy of Lightning Joe and maybe one other book to have for reading on the drive there .
I’ve been so wrapped up in my quest to find my Father’s Unit he served with that when it was pointed out to me- - I just couldn’t see it . Thinking I’ll back off for a day or two - - you and others here have been very patient with me…and I do appreciate that for sure -
Thank you , very much Hey will be back to bug ya Laterrrrr
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Did you say he returned to the US ?
His Wounds he Received in Action were from a grenade . He had scares on the lower back of his neck and side of his neck and on his back from shrapnel . I don’t believe he returned home before his discharge . Also in Box # 40
Reason and Authority for Separation:
Convenience of Government RR 1-1 (Demobilization) AR 615-365 15 Dec 44
What is that date : 15 Dec 44 ?
15th of December, 1944.
I'm sorry but I'm beginning to believe you don't actually read the information I have posted for you. For the second time.
His wound admittance information was:
Injury Type: Battle injury; Injury Type2: All battle casualties, and all battle injuries not intentionally inflicted by self or another person;
Diagnosis: Wound(s), penetrating (point of entrance only: includes incised, puncture or stab wound) with no nerve or artery involvement;
Location: Head, occipital region;
Causative Agent: Grenade, Rifle, Fragments;
Diagnosis: Wound(s), abrade;
Medical Treatment: Closure of wound, delayed, or Suture secondary of wound (delayed closure).
He was discharged from the hospital in the Philippines to duty but I suspect was probably later reevaluated and chosen for a non-medical discharge from the Army. Quite a few convalescents were discharged that way beginning in 1945 as the war began to wind down.
Box #7 of his Record of Separation is his discharge date: 31 July 1945
Box #8 is his place of discharge: Fort Leavenworth, Kansas
Box #36 is his record of overseas service: he left the USA for the APT (Hawaii) on 28 May 1941 and arrived in Honolulu on 2 June 1941. He left the APT (the Philippines) on 1 July 1945 and arrived in the USA on 24 July 1945.
He was at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, USA when he received his discharge.
15 December 1944 is the effective date of Army Regulation (AR)-615-365. The reason for his separation under AR-615-365 was "Convenience of Government". The specific section of AR 615-365 that applied was "RR 1-1 (Demobilization)".
Note that at some time in his Army career he was a bad boy. He lost 3 days of service credit because of an unstated disciplinary infraction under AR-107 (it cost him around $1 in his mustering out payment) . He may have overstayed a leave, mouthed off to an NCO or something similar but I doubt he did anything serious like going AWOL - that usually got them penalized weeks of service.
It is actually possible the Army was cutting corners in not giving him a medical discharge, since then he possibly would have been eligible for disability benefits.
He could still apply for benefits after discharge. Nothing to stop him from applying.
The Nevada Herald Nevada, Missouri 24 Aug 1944, Thu • Page 4
Not the same person that we are talking about.
This is Kenneth L Chesnut
Something is odd. His report of separation says he was wounded 13 April 1945, which matches his hospital admission card.
Clerical error? I know, I know, "unheard of!"
He was standing next to a blast from a grenade…and had burn like scars from the shrapnel on his right side head-neck and some at the bottom of his neck and back of his neck and on the right side of his back and arm . Sort of reddish-purple in some places. I said to him - - dad - -you must have been in horrible pain . Because it looks painful now - - He said it didn’t hurt at all - but I don’t believe that for a second . The scars didn’t show , he wore shirts with a collar - sometimes a business suit everyday so they weren’t visible all the time , but without his shirt they were . That must have hurt really bad . He said he still had shrapnel under the skin in a couple places .
So that is all very good information you’ve dug up . I’ll have to get your contact info and send you a really big tip if you keep this up.
By the way could you post his : Wound Admittance Information here , so I can copy and save it ? Please Thank you
P.S. You said he had been a bad boy …and he might have , he was young then …and hadn’t even met my Mother yet- So’ Thanx again
Don’t forget to post admittance card Laterrrrr
Did you see I finally put down a link to Father’s separation paper . I was so stressed about
that . Didn’t know it would take me at least a day and a half to get it done . Anyway ppl here are finding a lot about him for me-really .
It not easy to just start reading a discharge paper and know what the Army jargon is - or what it’s saying- - know what I mean ? Anyway just wanted to say - Hi see ya Laterrrrr
If you have a cell phone with a camera you can photograph the paper and email to yourself.
Yes, I understand those terms -reorganized-redesignated-assigned-activated-deactivated. They just use those terms so often it makes my head spin.
Poor guy had Malaria - twice - Hey, I was thinking, if I could find out what ship transported those outfits to the Islands - beaches - maybe they kept
a roster of names. Then I would know exactly what place he had gone and the Unit he was in -at that moment in time. Anyway - -
the War hadn't started yet so he was with the 90th FA Bn as it was assigned into the 25th Infantry Division. Ok
So' the 90th FA Bn would have traveled where the 25th Infantry Division traveled - - correct ?
Passenger ship rosters are incomplete or non-existent for San Francisco to Hawaii. Military transports did not have passenger rosters - they counted numbers of people.
Yes, the 90th FA would have traveled with the 25th Infantry Division. However, the big question now is was he on Saipan? Was he wounded on Saipan? How did he get to Saipan? And why do all his other records indicate he was wounded in April 1945, thus the Philippines, and not in 1944 on Saipan?
Whoops. The "Bronze Star" is not what I thought. It's an indicator of his service.
The Sacramento Bee Sacramento, California 09 Jul 1984, Mon • Page 5
Kenneth “Ken” Chesnut (1919-1984) - Find a Grave...