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Was America justified in dropping the atomic bomb on Japan?

Discussion in 'Atomic Bombs In the Pacific' started by Trip Jab, Jun 14, 2016.

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  1. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I have looked for support for that idea, and haven't found anything that I would consider supportive at the highest levels except in an ex post facto way.. Anybody got anything?
     
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  2. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    Indeed. I also couldn't find anything whether the Germans have bombed Perl Harbour or Japan was bombed as a retaliation for sinking Titanic. Strange? I still don't know where A-58 and fotmerjudgehead have found that. Any clue?
     
    Tamino, Jun 16, 2016
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  3. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    FJH also has complete plans for the secret NAZI base in Antarctica!
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I think that was aboard either U-235 or U-238.
     
    OpanaPointer, Jun 16, 2016
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    That plan fell through when the Polar bear guards demanded to be paid in penguins.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I thought it was U-137, and, IRC, some kind of scottish liquor was involved...
     
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  7. Tamino

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    FJH, please send me that material by PM.
     
    Tamino, Jun 16, 2016
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    Trip Jab New Member

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    This post is getting to weird places real fast.
     
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    :) Well, not for another 20 years, August 10, 1965, to be exact :)
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Reservist?
     
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  11. R Leonard

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    Regular, USNA 1938.
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Toga....toga....toga....toga!
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Toga....toga....toga....toga!
     
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  14. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Cool. I read that post wrong.
     
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  15. Tamino

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    Let me address these four statements:

    1. Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
    2. (Japanese) sinking the Titanic
    3. Toga....toga....toga....toga!
    4. (Bombing) ... more to impress the Soviet Union than to cow Japan.

    Statements 1 and 2 can be proven as factually wrong.
    Statement 3 could be considered as a result of typing error (could be: Torra! Torra! Torra! ...) or I am wrong, what is very likely.

    Validity of the statement 4, however, depends on frankness of a politician. Purely from the view of logics the statement 4 can not be rejected as false because it depends on something very questionable: truthfulness of a politician.

    Could someone help me to reject the statement 4 as false?
     
    Tamino, Jun 17, 2016
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    Now your just trying to get the last word in


    :D :D :D
     
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  17. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    With enough digging we might find comments by someone in the know that thought this might be a benefit of the bombs, but there's nothing to show that it was ever an official or even unofficial goal for the US.
     
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    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    Fair enough.

    Al Capone wasn't convicted as mafioso but for tax evasion because "there was nothing to show that" he was a gangster. Evidence was carefully hidden.

    EDIT: But, please, note that the subject of this conversation is not a legal one - it is rather the question if there is reasonable justification of excessive violence exerted against the defeated enemy. Or more directly: is there any justification for beating someone laying uncociously on the floor, without any chance whatsoever to defend?
     
    Tamino, Jun 17, 2016
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    Both of those boats were used until they were both depleted
     
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  20. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Turns out that was what was needed.
     
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