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When the Soldiers Came/Post War Rape

Discussion in 'Post War 1945-1955' started by GRW, Mar 2, 2015.

  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I practically don´t think Germans were happily returning to Germany as without armed guards they were hunted by those looking for vengeance. I recall reading about the Czechs hunting viciously Germans as they tried to retreat/escape, I cannot blame the Czechs, but I believe in many countries the soldiers and civilians were "disappearing" or probably not even so invisibly hanged to the trees etc etc. And for instance Poland was during war one of the countries were locals quite "openly" attacked and killed German soldiers. Just think how they probably acted after the war.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_from_Czechoslovakia

    In the summer of 1945 there were localised massacres of the German population. The following examples are described in a study done by the European University Institute in Florence:[23]
    • June 18–19, 1945, in the Přerov incident, 71 men, 120 women and 74 children (265 Germans) who were Slovak Germans from Dobšiná were passing through Horní Moštěnice near Přerov railway station. Here they were taken out of the train, taken outside the city to a hill named "Švédské šance", where they were forced to dig their own graves and all were shot. They were all murdered while being transported back to Slovakia by soldiers of the 17th Bratislava Foot Regiment.
    • 20,000 Germans were forced to leave Brno for camps in Austria. Z. Beneš reported 800 deaths.[24]
    • Estimates of those killed in the Ústí massacre range from 30–50 to 600–700 civilians.
    • 763 people were shot dead in Postoloprty and the immediate vicinity.[24] In September 1947 a Czechoslovak parliamentary commission investigated reports of mass graves scattered around the north Bohemian town of Postoloprty. In all, the investigation unearthed 763 German bodies, victims of a zealous Czechoslovak army detachment carrying out orders to "cleanse" the region of Germans in late May 1945. Expellees who survived the massacre estimated the number of their murdered neighbours at around 800
     
  2. KJ Jr

    KJ Jr Well-Known Member

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    I second that. My German is awful...I wish I could read it fluently to infer more from her answers, but it screams of conjecture with a few facts thrown in.
     
  3. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    This is a correct conclusion.
    You're right, there must be a certain plan of action behind this “study”. Frau Doktor Gebhardt aims at the American occupation forces. In an interview for the state German Radio, when asked a simple question if the rapes of German females were punished, she became quite elaborate (my translation from German language):

    Of course, the Germans themselves had no means to take action against the occupying forces, the police or the courts. On the other hand, the military itself have responded very hash when the rapes were disclosed. I have found cases of spontaneous lynching, which then turned probably primarily against black soldiers who had raped white women, which, for example, in American society was also a great absurd. We know of the death penalty, and we know of life-long work in American prison labor camps.

    She intentionally focuses attention to the cases involving black American Soldiers to accuse Americans of racism. She deliberately sends a message: our soldiers raped but Americans raped too. Germans were racists but the Americans were racists too. She stresses that Americans had labor camps but fails to mention that camps had no facilities for mass murders what was the case in German camps. She fails to mention that racism was of the paramount importance to the Nazis and that the American racism was a marginal phenomena among certain parts of population. She fails to stress that the Nazi regime organized rapes even in the concentration camps whilst the American rapists were individuals and that occurrence of rapes among American soldiers was well within the normal extent in given circumstanced.
    Just add a statement that the world war was a struggle for the world domination and many people may conclude: they did it too, the only difference is that they have won the war.
    This is the worst case of deliberate and well premeditated advocating of the Nazi regime.
     
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  4. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    This says it all for me, even allowing for dodgy translation-


    Sounds straight out of Marija Gimbuta's works.
     
  5. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    And here is the smoking gun:

    Invasion of rapists with well ironed throusers:

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  6. KJ Jr

    KJ Jr Well-Known Member

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    Ha :)
     
  7. Drew5233

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    I have no interest in the book, not my area of interest, but a few years ago I copied all the Field and General Courts Marshal registers for the British Army in WW2 for someone. These covered Officers and Other Ranks. There was Circa 25,000 entries in the registers and whilst they were not all rapes I was surprised by the amount, a significant amount I might add, of entries for rape and murder.
     
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