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Wish I could have fought in WWII...

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  1. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    And many more young and naive kids got themselves killed by being gung ho
     
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Or being lead by someone who was :rolleyes:.
     
  3. Lippert

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    True enough. JC are you implying I'm one of those? :)
     
  4. JCFalkenbergIII

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    No not at all!!! LOL
     
  5. Lippert

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    I know bud, I jest.

    :cheers:

    Being gung ho helped the Spartans, Romans, Carthaginians...
     
  6. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I kinda figured :rolleyes:. :p LOL
     
  7. IntIron

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    Just a quick aside:

    My grandfather was in WWII, in the US Navy. He could have been deferred due to a medical issue.(The Army would not take him, nor would the marines). He told them he wanted to go, so they sent him. He saw some horrendous events, their ship was hit by a kamikaze, hammered on by enemy shore batteries. His division(Division L) was required to clean up what was left... He did not glorify war, but he did his duty. His happiest day of the war was when it was all over and he returned home to his loving soon to be wife.

    Yours,

    Bill
     
  8. globius

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    Why would you want to fight in WW2, most likely get shot anyway especially on the Eastern Front.
     
  9. globius

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    Dont they want that attitude in the marines ?
     
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  10. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Western Front ,Eastern Front,The Med,Pacific, CBI. No matter where you were there was a chance you would get shot,shelled,bombed,mortared,stabbed,clubbed,contract a disease,ect.
     
  11. Lippert

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    What the Corps wants is people that are motivated to do their job and proud to be Marines. Yes, we have areputation for being gung ho... but as the Greek philosopher said, moderation in all things is key.

    Courage is good, while cowardice and foolhardiness are bad. Don't be discouraged by what you've heard guys say here. The point they are trying to make is that many get caught up in the thoughts of glory and grandeur of war - the real work itself is a sickening and exhausting task, and is almost nothing like those great movies, as many who have been there will tell you.

    Nonetheless, you have a penchant for getting into the fight - the Marines may be a good place for you. Stay motivated, stay educated, stay dedicated.
     
  12. Mibo

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    Lol, im 16 too, but i get terrified when playing CoD, so i can't even imagine the horrors of ww2.

    Probably to get a taste of what the most comfortable day of War was like, i should turn off the heater, open the windows (it's cold outside.) cover myself in mud and blood, and stop eating for 3 days. Then turn on CoD and put the Volume to Max. Oh and hire my sister to try to sneak up on me every hour or so.

    In short, i would never want to be in WW2, and wish anything like it will never happen again. I'm thinking that somebody who would want to be there, is either under-educated, or not in full power of his mind.
     
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    Hi Mibo, Glad to read a wise posting from such a young fellow. Cheers.
     
  14. von Rundstedt

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    Well i hope you don't end up like an uncle of mine, served in the RAAF and after his transfer he ended up in the RAF Bomber Command flying Lacasters as a tail gunner, one mission his badly shot up Lanc made it home and they turned his turret to one side and hosed him out, his turret was hit with 20mm and 30mm cannon. There was nothing recognisable that a human once sat there, the only thing that was recognisable was his ID tags, at 16 i seriosly believe that you should if you can take time out and travel the world and see other folks and cultures

    WW2 was not a perfect war you mention terrorism, the London Blitz, bombing of Dresden, Fire bombing of Tokyo were acts of terrorism on a grand scale, you mention uniforms, many partisan groups did not wear uniforms. There were scopes (German's used Infra-Red night scopes on latter versions of the Panther's). You love the WW2 era, what about the Holocaust, do you love that. And i hope to Allah that there will never be another World War in the same context as WW2, the 10's of millions killed will be shadowed by the billions killed in the next World War.

    v.R
     
  15. Adrian Wainer

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    Hi Von Rundstedt, I would call the bombing of Dresden and Tokyo terroristic in its intent but I would not describe it as terrorism, in that both the Third Reich and Imperial Japan conducted themselves in such a manner and pursued longer term goals of such a nature, that such extreme actions were legitimized. Furthermore, I would respectfully suggest that you would cut the guy some slack in implying that he might have been thinking that the Holocaust is a good thing,.... since he was thinking of joining the US Marine Corps and the last I heard, it was that US troops that had liberated the inmates from the Nazi concentration camps not put them in there.

    Asalam Alaikum
    Adrian Wainer
     
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    I tell the new guys in our department that everything we do is dangerous and can get you hurt or killed. We can probably can help the the "hurt" part over time, but dead is forever.

    I can only surmise that combat is infinitely more dangerous and weighs more heavily on a person's mind. While my "terror" in a burning building usually last only a few minutes, combat grinds on for hours, days or weeks. It cannot be a comfortable or good feeling.

    The inability to be in full control of your surroundings is an unnerving experience (for me at least) that I've only had to experience one time, when the interior of a house collapsed on me and partner one night. I couldn't tell my wife about for a long time. I understand how men who've really "seen the elephant" could have difficulties talking about the very real and sustained horrors they witnessed.
     
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    Actually I think a simulator would be a great idea. Let someone experience the fear,dispair and horror of war. To experience to feeling of your body being violated by bullets and shrapnel, knives, ect. Being burned alive. The feeling of limbs being blown off. Then the feeling of dealing with living with missing limbs and sight. Then the feelings of extreme weather and the pangs of hunger and starvation. The feeling of being beaten. The feelings of the loss of friends,buddies and family. The feelings of marching for miles and constantl being tired. The constant threat of death. The boredom and hopes of going home. Yeah it would be amazing :rolleyes:.
     
  18. Triple C

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    This war is enough for me. I am not even in it. One of my old friend is. It is unreal to chatt with him when he gets down time in Sadr City, Baghdad on the ADSL of an American FoB. I would say hello. He'd ask how is my day. My response is always incredibly lame, no matter how I twist my unremarkable day arround and where I bend it. Because in five minutes, he'd tell me, in perfect character, "I'm alright. I just got back from a 100 hour mission. I saw a 2,000 lbs of explosives blow. That was impressive." Or he'd reflect on his job: "Sunnis are trying to kill Shi'ites, Shi'ites are returning the favor and whenever we try to help they both try to kill us." Sometimes, he'd even complain about being shot at: "Snipers? No. They pick pot-shots at us. That doesn't worry us much. They are very poor shots." Like their mortar fire, he assures me: they are almost harmless, except that they luck out once in awhile. Just statistics.

    Everytime I talked to him, I made a mental promise to buy him a beer. I haven't seen him since he left college for the army. I haven't talked to him since his re-deployment to Sadr City. Now, I think, I owe him four.
     
  19. Halldin

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    Of course it sounds cool to jump out of a C47 or charge the beaches of Normandie, but when I try to think about how it's like to live through true hell, it's not so cool anymore.
     
  20. Triple C

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    Most US Infantry Divisions lost all of its founding soldiers of Normandy by Fall 1944. The chances for a rifleman to participate the assault on Normandy and survive VE day without becoming a casaulty or captive is practically nil. One in ten would probably be a generous over-estimation...
     
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