Hi all! I found this forum today, and I have to say it's great. (sorry for my english...I'm from Finland) OK...this is a movie topic....here is one less known great WWII movie: Winter war (1989) original title: Talvisota It's a finnish movie about 105 days of battle between Finland and Russia at winter 1939-40. It's historically true, great battlescenes, no hollywood style hero- or lovestory. Some people say that it's the best WWII film ever made...and not just in Finland . If you're going to check this out get the 3+ hour version of it.. Saasta
Hyvää päivää Saasta! Kuinka voitte ? Minun nimeni on Zhukov_2003. And that is about the extent of my Finnish. Don't worry about your English it probably sounds better than both my Suomi and English! I have heard of the movie you mentioned, and I have heard many good things about it, but I have never been able to find it anywhere. I would love to see this movie considering the fact that some of the most interesting battles occured during the Winter War. hauska tavata!
The Candian Army, Black Watch, never took an SS prisoner after a Canadian Red Cross meical unit was totally anihalated by the SS. The women had their breats cut off and the men were desexed. A real BRAVE action by the mighty German war machine; needless to say this action gave the Allies another excuse to be brutal as well. Events like this one spreeds like wild fire, in any army.
also in the korean war the americans found theirs g.i. murdered and mutilated by the commies, the same happened in vietnam, that is one of the reason that american do not take prisioners ( according with a friend who is a viet nam veteran)
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, I do find this a bit of a cliché but it applies once again.
That was a brilliant documentary series! About the massacres of the British soldiers, which I wasn't aware of either... We were told in the beginning that all the events were derived from first-hand accounts of the British soldiers at Dunkirk, so that massacre scene was probably told by a soldier at Dunkirk too... He COULD have been lying! I'm sure that soldier's hatred of Germans, being repelled to Dunkirk in one of Britain's worst military defeats, would have made him lie like that Why do you ask if I think he's lying? Because I think it's very unlikely that German soldiers would've done that to British soldiers - I mean, it was only customary of them to do that to 'racial inferiors', like the Jews and the Slavs - Hitler actually respected the British, as they were the Third Reich's Germanic cousins, and doing that would've been very unlike him, no matter how brutal and manical he was... But, in fact, I heard Hitler actually wanted a peace treaty with Britain, and it really wasn't until Churchill refused it that he began to hate the British, and even executed all captured British commandos
I disagree with you there. The battle of France was lost spectacularly, but unlike any real defeat almost all British troops got away safely and could be used to fight another day. The defeat was uncompleted, which rendered the UK at least slightly more ready for whatever would follow. For the French, now, it was a real, complete and humiliating defeat. Their army was comparable in size to that of the Germans, and their equipment was superior. However, the Germans slaughtered everyone whenever they felt they needed to, and they were not the only ones to. In 1944 they also massacred French civilians and American soldiers, and these are just some examples; I think they may well have been ready to kill British soldiers in cold blood.
One well documented incident happened in Pas-de-Calais on 27 May 1940, when about 90 British POWs from the 2nd Royal Norfolks and other British regiments were slaughtered by the 4th Company, 2nd Totenkopf Infantry Regiment commanded by Obersturmfürher Fritz Knoecklein. His own fellow Waffen-SS members could later tell that Knoecklein after the massacre ran about as a madman, looking for other British POWs to shoot. Another 80 or 90 was slaughtered the next day, on 28 May 1940, in Wormhoudt. The British POWs included members of the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, the Cheshire Regiment and the Royal Artillery. They were massacred by the 2nd Battalion Leibstandarte who led the POWs into a barn and killed them by throwing hand grenades into the barn.
Wow! :evil: I can't believe I underestimated their barbarism... Ah, yes, Roel, thanks yet again! hehe, yeah, it wasn't entirely a defeat - it just depends how you percieve it, really - if it wasn't for Churchill calling it the 'miracle of Dunkirk' (which, in a way, it really was) then we'd probably be kicking ourselves about it Well done, Operation Dynamo!
Yup, that was the most succesful 'draft' action ever. Every single one of those civilian vessels saved lives. By the way, you're welcome, Phantasm.
Oh, I just saw another one that's not on the list: Memphis Belle. Even though the story itself is a bit boring and predictable, you get so many nice shots of the B17 and its .50s.... *drools*
i got one, the devils brigade. It kinda sucked and its history wasnt at all true except it was a canadian/american special force and where they were supposed to be going. There first mission was to be the spearhead for anzios hill thingy. In the real story the place was rocky and bumpy. In the movie it was a tropcial forest with tons of african buildings.My only favourite part was when they were training. When they were practicing sking they were on a rabbit hill. The canadians were going down in no time while the americans were just flipping and flopping and trying to walk with them (no offence to any americans here).
What about the movie The Bridge at Remagen? That was a great movie, especially the part with the chickens.
But the sound was so horrible... :cry: I've found this nice pic of the Tiger used in SPR. You can see that the track is VERY Russian, and the turret is placed too far up front.
Speaking of Savaing Private Ryan, did anyone else catch the 747 flying in the background of the sniper seen? That was hilarios.