WWII Forums Quiz Part V

Martin, do you understand now why I suggested these rules?

 

Quite so - Erich should now be taken out and shot.

 

OK then

Guess the number I've got in my mind under 10. The one with the wright answer may start the quiz.

Cheeeeers

 

Then lets go over to QuizVI and let Otto start it up???

Popski

 

Just found this again........my PC is only limiting me to certain threads so go figure.

ok this should be an easy one. what Luftwaffe pilot scored the highest number of day Heavy bomber kills ? include name, his rank and number of bomber victories as well as his unit. there has been quite a bit of specualtion the last 5 years if his total number was valid or not.

~E

 

There are too many unconfirmed, likely/possible scores to come to a definite conclusion, but quite likely the winner is:

Major Georg-Peter Eder
36-39 four-engine bombers
Units: at least 10 different

 

no but good guess ! the flieger had flown the Bf 109 exclusively....

keep hunting ! The man is easier to find than what you think.

~E

 

I really don't think that this can be determined definitely, as I said, there are many possible/unconfirmed kills. These are the other candidates, but none of them flew only the Me 109?!

Maj. Anton Hackl, 34 4-mots, 192 total
Oblt. Konrad "Pitt" Bauer, 32 4-mots, 57 total
Obst. Walter Dahl, 30-36 4-mots, 128 total

Bauer is not so famous, so you probably don't mean him. Is he one of the three?

 

nope, c'mon U guys don't give up on me. The guy flew in JG 53 Pik As and was a

 

Then either we have contradicting sources or a communication problem. I assumed "day Heavy bomber kills" to be scores on 4-engine bombers, on the way to bomb Germany or occupied territory, at daylight. Do you mean something different?

[ 09. November 2003, 03:35 PM: Message edited by: KnightMove ]

 

that is what I thought I asked ! hmmmmmmmm

The gentleman for over 50 years has haeld this score until about 5 years ago when more research was made into JG 53 and their scores listings. On any detailed listing of Luftwaffe aces (the net)he is ranked as the highest scorer amongst B-17's and B-24's........

~E

 

Then let's compare our lists... the one I found is:

http://www.luftwaffe.cz/viermot.html

Topscorer of JG 53 is Maj. Friedrich-Karl Müller, but he's not even in the Top 10.

 

http://www.germanfighteraces.com/uk/alphabetical1.htm

This is a list of German aces in general, rather consistent with the one above. Eder and Dahl have 36 scores in there, nobody more.

 

Km go back to Petr Kacha's homepage and the front U will find none othere than........me that helped put his bomber killer bios together.

Scroll down to Jg 53 ace Herbert Rollwege. Read his bio or what there is of it. Petr' received his information of corse third hand through the JG 53 histories and their is some doubt as I pointed out what his final score really was. Only 14 are shown as claimed in the books......

take it away if you would like

~E

 

So you're Erich Brown? (I think we need a 'wow' smily.) Are you related to Melvin?

However, it seems now that you believe in this number, whereas Petr doesn't. Why? And which sources DO believe in Rollwage's 44 victories?

 

nope Melvin is not related but a good research friend. We have passed on many an e-mail and copied document to each other.

I did not say I did not beleive what he had but think it may be warped. Herbert could of scored 44 kills or maybe 25, but I can tell you that Dahl's claim is BS. Not sure of Eder though. My help was along the lines of the STurmgruppen bios which I had made up for our sturmgruppen site/as well as personal interviews with the pilots. Also some data materials in my nachtjagd data base.

Peter still has some goofy stuff listed but hopefully he will straighten it out in due time. And Yes I am the Erich Brown

~E

 

As far as I can see, there is the possibility, but no likelihood, that Rollwage is the topscorer, which is why I don't understand you insist him to be the right answer.

Well then, next question...

In the final battle of the Graf Spee, her and her main adversary saw each other at quite differing points of time.

What was this ship's name, what was the time interval of the different sightings, and how did it occur?

 

Graf Spee?

The Exeter, Ajax and Achilles were split in two forces in order to divide Graf Spee´s fire power.

The Exeter ( the 8-in cruiser ) attacked from the South and Ajax and Achilles ( both 6-in light cruisers ) from the north.

At 0614 the Graf Spee is seen by the three ships, by 0650 Exeter leaves badly damaged, but I don´t know if Ajax and Achilles meanwhile lost contact with Graf.At 0725 the Ajax is hit.By 0800 Graf Spee is leaving the area.

 

Correct, but no answer to my question. Graf Spee sighted the Exeter already at 0530... why the discrepance of 44 min?

 

Maybe you mean the thing that Graf Spee noticed the mast first? In Cajus Becker´s book they noticed the masts first and thought it might be a boat full of cargo but noticed later on that there were more ships and as they turned out to be something they might sink ( Exter, Ajax, Achilles )they decided to go for it.